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    Yesterday, 02:26 PM
    2 members are celebrating their birthday on 05-21-2019: -Antonio22 (born in 1992, Age: 27) -mertgumus (born in 1994, Age: 25) Happy Birthday!
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    Yesterday, 01:42 PM
    Massaro got a raw deal from WWE, especially when they went to Kuwait Photo Credit: WWE.com Ashley Massaro's death was ruled a suicide, a bit of information that isn't exactly surprising given how many people, wrestlers, football players, or otherwise, afflicted with chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) befall the same fate. Although it is not surprising, it is devastating to see yet another person cut down far too early due to the effects of brain injuries to which people like Vince McMahon only pay lip service. Of course, Massaro's CTE isn't the only thing McMahon turned a blind eye to. Her sworn affidavit surrounding her involvement in the class action suit against WWE was released on Reddit and Twitter over the last few days, and it paints a harrowing picture if what she says in them is true (hint, I would say it's 99.9999999999999999999999 percent likely to be true). EXTREME CONTENT WARNING here as it is a dictation of Massaro graphically recounting her violent assault in Kuwait, but you can read it for yourself here. The quick and filthy recap is that Massaro felt what she thought was menstrual cramps while in the Kuwait stop on her WWE goodwill tour along with Ron Simmons, Maria Kanellis, Jimmy Hart, and Gary Hart. The military personnel insisted that she was just dehydrated, so they took her to a facility where a man claiming to be a doctor came in with an IV, but that IV was not for dehydration. The drug in it left Massaro paralyzed, and the faux-doctor took his liberties. Afterwards, she confided in her coworkers and asked them not to tell anyone else that it happened, but someone obviously spilled the beans, as her ticket back to the states was "mysteriously" disappeared, and when she got back, the WWE doctor knew about what happened to her. To make things worse, the doctor then told McMahon, and then the chairman turned around and told Massaro to keep things quiet because "the incident would ruin the relationship between WWE and the US Military" and that "one bad incident" shouldn't jeopardize the work WWE was doing. Massaro would also allege that WWE did not train its workers properly to deal with head trauma and that much like with her assault, McMahon just did not care. So Massaro was holding a lot of internalized trauma at the time of her death. What she went through in WWE in addition to the magnifying effects of CTE on the mental health of those afflicted makes her story a tragedy. Massaro appears to have forgiven WWE or at least compartmentalized the bad with the good opportunities she thought the company gave her. In my opinion, it far from excuses WWE in its role in her decision to apparently take her own life. I am not an expert in the human psyche, but I do know that sometimes, regretful people oftentimes take blame in situations to make amends, even when they do not deserve said blame. The fact is, Massaro is not living on this earth anymore in large part to the indifference WWE showed to her suffering. McMahon, his daughter, Kevin Dunn, Paul Levesque, and anyone else in power then or now can do all the whitewashing they want, but it doesn't bring Massaro back.
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    Yesterday, 10:55 AM
    An ugly belt for a promising project? Photo Credit: WWE.com At Money in the Bank, WWE announced that Mick Foley would be introducing a new title on RAW. Last night, as many suspected, Foley introduced the 24/7 Championship. The title, as seen above, looks like a cross between a commemorative coin and a '50s diner sign. The title is not a hardcore championship, which both makes sense given the downplay of such wrestling in the company and stinks given that even in a PG, bloodless scenario, garbage wrestling is fun. I may be in the minority, but matches like that Dolph Ziggler/Damien Sandow Broadway Brawl still provide moments of violent levity, a break in the watered down version of indie workrate wrestling that the indies gussied up from All Japan Pro Wrestling anyway. Anyway, the article giving information on the title claims that: ...the new 24/7 Championship... can change hands on Raw, SmackDown LIVE, WWE Network shows, WWE Live Events or even on social media. Now, more than ever, anything can happen in WWE.Hmm, social media, eh? A 24/7 Championship defended on the video portions of places like Twitter and Instagram sounds really familiar, mainly because Dramatic Dream Team and Chuck Taylor have been mining that territory for years. DDT's Ironman Heavymetalweight Championship is one of the most unique titles in all of wrestling in that it has a 24/7 rule and has been defended and won mostly outside of DDT events. You don't even necessarily have to be a living organism to hold it, as notable former Champions include a ladder, a portion of yakitori, and even Vince McMahon's Hollywood Walk of Fame star. DDT is probably the most unique wrestling promotion in the world that doesn't involve furries (luv u Kaiju Big Battel), so it should follow that they'd have the most unique Championship. Chuck Taylor's 24/7 Title wasn't affiliated with any promotion, per se, but it was without a doubt the most refreshing trend in American indie wrestling for the year or so that he promoted it. Defenses happened on a dedicated Instagram account. It was notable in that it showed how everything was wrestling, from fueling up at a local gas station to nursing a hangover in the toilet. It also gave the world The Estonian Thunderfrog proclaiming "I NEW HARDCORE CHAMP, I BUY JESUS!" and also Drew Gulak defeating antisemitism. For the year or so that it was active, it was the most joyful thing in all of wrestling, even if at times it was problematic (unnecessary homophobia, Michael Elgin, etc.). WWE getting its hands on the concept is another example that it doesn't create ideas, it mines them from people and promotions lower on the food chain. Once upon a time, it and World Championship Wrestling could take ideas from other places and give a relevant take on it. Now, it seems that anything fresh or exciting in the company comes directly from the workers, and any idea that is presented as a management directive falls flat. Could the 24/7 Title end up being an exception? I think so, since it feels like it will be divorced from the Vince McMahon/Paul Levesque decision engine and probably be more a worker-and-agent collaboration. But I don't doubt that it could and probably will end up becoming something intolerably corny as most management-driven things in the company do. Rather than ending on a sour note, I will present to you a defense of each title, one of the DDT Heavymetalweight title and one of the Chuckie T 24/7 title, just to show you how well and creatively the concept can be done. View this post on Instagram Ultramantis Black 1st Defense. A post shared by Chuck Taylor (@chuckietea) on Nov 4, 2013 at 12:21pm PST (note, UltraMantis Black is vegan) BREAKING: @CandiceLeRae pins Joey Ryan in a dream to win @ddtpro Ironman Heavymetalweight (24/7 Rule) Title. #ddtpro pic.twitter.com/uqLdnhQRyY — Joey Ryan (@JoeyRyanOnline) July 28, 2016
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    05-20-2019, 03:53 PM
    He's back and ready to go Photo via Eagles Wire Welcome to a feature I like to call "Best in the World" rankings. They're not traditional power rankings per se, but they're rankings to see who is really the best in the world, a term bandied about like it's bottled water or something else really common. They're rankings decided by me, and don't you dare call them arbitrary lest I smack the taste out of your mouth. Without further ado, here's this week's list: 1. Carson Wentz (Last Poll: 1) - His 2018 season ended in ignominy with a backbreaking loss to the Cowboys, but it turns out that his back literally was broken, although no one really knows when. However, the word dropped that he will have no limitations at organized team activities (which are optional, by the by) this year. Wentz will have a lot of pressure this season since he will have no Big Dick Nick (Foles) security blanket backing him up. Cody Kessler, Nate Sudfeld, and Clayton Thorson don't exactly inspire the fear that Foles did. But I have faith in my quarterback to get the Eagles back where they belong, and that's the Super Bowl, baby. 2. Game of Thrones Viewers (Last Poll: Not Ranked) - It's easy to lose sight of the real heroes from last night, the people who stayed aboard for eight seasons even though the wheels started coming off around, oh, I don't know, season three, episode nine. People will judge them on their complaints, but I mean, look at the last three episodes from this season. Those shitheads David Benioff and DB Weiss packed like two seasons worth of advancement into three episodes. Grey Worm might as well have been put under a spell to go from noble infantry leader to The Co-Inventor of War Crimes! So to all my fellow 73-episode trekkers, I salute you. 3. Orange Cassidy (Last Poll: Not Ranked) - It's hard defending the Independent Wrestling Championship all the time, but especially when noted trickster god Joey Janela dresses up like you and calls himself Tangerine Cassidy to try and sneak the belt off your waist. You have to wake up pretty early in the morning to fool ol' Orange Cassidy, you do. 4. Hiromu Takahashi (Last Poll: Not Ranked) - Look, I don't know what "The D" he's referring to is here, but anything to fuck with that idiot Will Ospreay is okay by me. 5. Bayley (Last Poll: Not Ranked) - Her turn last night winning the briefcase and doing the rare babyface post-match surprise cash-in framed around running in to save Becky Lynch and the crowd roaring in approval in the background shows you really can't hold a shining talent down. I hope that WWE won't punt this in the longer term, but I don't have hope. Still, it's good to have moments, y'know? 6. MizDad (Last Poll: Not Ranked) - He made the list when he did a run-in at Absolute Intense Wrestling, but then when I heard it was a shoot, well, I had to include him with honors. Miz might be a company man, but his dad, whoo, he's a wildman for sure. 7. Everything Bagels (Last Poll: Not Ranked) HOLZERMAN HUNGERS OFFICIALLY-SPONSORED RANKING - They are both the perfect conveyance for sandwiches with the extra flavor on the outside, but they also stand tall on their own with cream cheese, butter, jelly, or whatever you schmear on there. The seasoning is savory to its core, but it pairs well with sweet flavors. Everything bagels, I salute you. 8. People Throwing Milkshakes at Nigel Farage (Last Poll: Not Ranked) - You're doing beautiful, sweetie. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. 9. Maisie Williams (Last Poll: Not Ranked) - The actors have voiced latent disappointment with how things have ended, but no one really has given into the fans' point of view like the actress playing Arya Stark, who is just here for the memes. She's doing the work of all Seven Gods, the Lord of Light, and whatever eldritch monstrosity those weirdos in the Iron Islands worship. 10. Otis Dozovic (Last Poll: Not Ranked) -
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    05-20-2019, 03:15 PM
    2 members are celebrating their birthday on 05-20-2019: -RafaelaDev (born in 1978, Age: 41) -Juli45464 (born in 1985, Age: 34) Happy Birthday!
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    05-20-2019, 02:38 PM
    I don't need or want to see this again Photo Credit: WWE.com I didn't watch all of Money in the Bank. I missed the first hour because I was being a dad, and I missed the main event because that's about when my wife got home to watch the series finale of Game of Thrones that we had on DVR delay because she went to a show during the live airing. What I did see was mostly good for a post-Saudi Fuck Money pay-per-view. AJ Styles and Seth Rollins finished their Universal Championship match hot as a volcano. Kofi Kingston and Kevin Owens surpassed them in the WWE Championship match later on. Before all of that happened though, WWE pulled out one of the most brilliant booking decisions in a quick minute by orchestrating the transition of the Smackdown Women's Championship from Becky Lynch to Charlotte Flair to Bayley. If the snippet of show from 8 PM ET until around 10:20 PM was all that Money in the Bank was, then it would've been one of the better non-Big 4 shows in recent memory. Vince McMahon and WWE deciding to go with its fourth- or fifth-most important pay-per-view head-to-head with the aforementioned series finale to the most recent instance of monoculture in the modern popular vernacular seemed like a mistake even as Thrones started to veer wildly towards hasty demise after the landmark third episode this season "The Long Night." Last night's finale was met with mixed reactions from fans and critics alike, even if most of those reactions were negative. It's not the first time a monocultural event met with disappointment. How I Met Your Mother, The Sopranos, The Dark Knight Rises, and LOST, for example, all went out to questionable endings, even though all of them will have some vociferous defenders (for example, I swear by the final season and finale of LOST even if it gets me into more fights with mutual acquaintances on social media than any other stance I have). Thrones fits here because after that landmark battle at Winterfell episode, the writers seemed to cram more material and plot advancement in three episodes than belonged there. HBO apparently offered showrunners David Benioff and DB Weiss ten episodes, which they refused, but honestly, what they tried to fit in the back half of this season really needed about two more seasons of fleshing out. Wrestling fans are used to this kind of big show disappointment, especially people who have stayed with the medium after the purchase of World Championship Wrestling. WWE has at times been uninspired at best with its PPV offerings, and even if the shows themselves have had good-to-outstanding wrestling, the booking decisions have set off fervor. So basically, wrestling fans know the drill that a lot of prestige television fans go through maybe once every couple of years at the most frequent. However, I'm not sure anyone expected WWE to tell Weiss and Benioff to hold its beer with the finish of the men's briefcase match, but in retrospect, I'm not sure McMahon likes being upstaged, even if it's by a show with which it only shares staged violence in common. So he called out Brock Lesnar. Yes, Lesnar's artificially-extended forever reign with the Universal Championship ended at WrestleMania, a grateful public reveling in Rollins presumably sending his ass back to Ultimate Fighting Championship. So you'll have excuse my and everyone else's exhaustion that he'd show up again to spring another presumed forever-reign on the company. If Lesnar is the panacea for sliding ratings that are rumored to have Smackdown canceled before it even begins on Fox, then I would suggest he refer to the famous quote from Narcotics Anonymous pamphlets in the late 19th Century, "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results." None of the evidence shows he moves the needle anyway. Basically, Lesnar and Ronda Rousey only really fill the "big name" quotient because people know who they are independently, or more accurately, because of exploits in UFC. It might help if WWE knew individuality and cult of personality sold tickets over homogeneity, but I already wrote that piece recently. In reality, Lesnar having the briefcase severely limits its implementation. He doesn't wrestle on any TV dates, so any cash-in on RAW or Smackdown is out the window. He only shows up to selected pay-per-views. If he cashes in early, then he either undoes WrestleMania with Rollins or it's terrible optics with Kingston. WWE already has Lars Sullivan running amok on television, and despite lightly punishing him for being an intractable racist goon, they seem to still want to have him attacking anyone with skin darker than a light sunburn from the Jersey Shore. I mean, the company letting him murk all three Lucha House Party members last night shows how dedicated they are to assuaging concerns that it's not fascist-adjacent in any way possible. So having the arch-Aryan dude whose bigotry is also on record would just dogpile onto those bad optics at the very least. If they wait to have him cash in, well, maybe that might be the best option depending on whom he cashes in, but the resulting title reign, unless he hilariously fails in his cash-in, would be a return to narrative problems that have plagued the company in recent memory. Lesnar's surprise appearance (by some accounts a surprise to the workers themselves, but I'm wary of those backstage "leaks" at convenient times) was perhaps the one thing that could have made the Thrones finale seem satisfactory to people who didn't enjoy it. I shouldn't be surprised; WWE has made it a mission statement to perfect the art of a disappointing big event finish. Yet folks like myself still tune in every time a PPV airs, because maybe we're the enablers and have the big problem. Then again, no matter who buys the show or not, it should be the responsibility of the wrestling company to do something that resonates satisfactorily with its audience, especially if you consider pro wrestling, or at least just WWE, not to be art but a capitalistic venture of supply and demand. If it was art, I might be able to defend the vision, but McMahon has never been in the business of making art. He's in the business of making money, which is probably problem number one.
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    05-20-2019, 08:23 AM
    Neville is off Double or Nothing Photo Credit: WWE.com Just eight days before the airing of Double or Nothing, All Elite Wrestling's official debut show, the card took a major hit. PAC vs. Adam Page, which was reportedly slotted to be the main event, was scrapped after "creative differences." The news dropped Saturday. PAC is also currently the Dragon Gate Open the Dream Gate Champion, the promotion's top title. Dragon Gate has wished for him not to lose any matches outside the promotion to keep him and the title strong. In order to put various opponents of his over, he has worked time-limit draws, but apparently, AEW brass strongly wanted Page to win the match. PAC will now not appear on the show, although it is assumed that his partnership with AEW is not in jeopardy. The two shot a match with a disqualification finish in England with an angle explaining the match being scrapped. While Page/PAC was probably not the most star-studded match on the show, it was built as having massive implications for the company's top Championship. Losing match strikes a major blow as it was the freshest and most narratively relevant top match on the show. Chris Jericho vs. Kenny Omega will probably slide into the main event spot, but Jericho is far past his prime as a regular performer. Cody Rhodes vs. his brother Dustin shows that schism in an even bigger fashion. It wasn't a lock to be the best match on the show with the Young Bucks vs. Lucha Bros. (Penta El Zero M and Rey Fénix) and the joshi six-woman match on the show. However, it was going to be the most important match at the intersection of quality and narrative relevance. Personally, I pin this all on the booking offices, namely AEW's. They wanted PAC, which is fine, because he's an incredible wrestler who does incredible things. However, as soon as he got his freedom from WWE, the first place he went was Dragon Gate, which though may be the third most relevant promotion in Japan after New Japan and All Japan, it's still a big and important promotion. Rhodes, the Jacksons, and Tony Khan really should have looked into this before booking the match, especially since PAC had won the Dream Gate Championship. Communication between people planning these kinds of shows is of the most vital importance. If I'm to believe that people in capital work so hard and do more than the labor, especially in wrestling, then maybe they shouldn't let things like these lapse. As for Page's opponent, AEW said they'll have an announcement this week. I'm not sure who will fill in for PAC. Maybe it'll be someone from the Over Budget Casino Battle Royale like Joey Janela, MJF, or Jimmy Havoc. Maybe it'll be someone who hasn't signed yet. Maybe someone will do double duty. However, I'm sure they'll have some contingency. In the meantime, let this be a cautionary tale. If AEW doesn't want to make the same pitfalls as WWE, it should make sure it does better, from the front office down.
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    05-18-2019, 02:17 PM
    1 member is celebrating their birthday on 05-18-2019: -kosicha (born in 1992, Age: 27) Happy Birthday!
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    05-17-2019, 02:20 PM
    2 members are celebrating their birthday on 05-17-2019: -lordtatus (born in 1970, Age: 49) -crisle (born in 1980, Age: 39) Happy Birthday!
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    05-17-2019, 11:13 AM
    RIP to a real one Photo Credit: WWE.com Ashley Massaro, former WWE wrestler, Playboy model and Survivor contestant, died yesterday. She was 39 years old. The cause of death has not been released yet, although police do not have a cause of death, they are classifying it as "non-criminal." The Blast reported that a rescue call came from her home in Smithtown, NY at 5:23 AM yesterday morning (May 16). She died at the hospital. She is survived by her daughter, Alexa. Massaro's WWE career began by winning Diva Search in 2005. She found a niche with a punk rock aesthetic that differentiated herself from the pack. However, she was a victim of the era, entered into WWE too late to wrestle men and too early to have been part of the "women's revolution." As such, one of her big angles involved her Playboy spread, which in and of itself isn't bad, but given how much worse WWE was at objectifying women even 12 years ago than it is today, well, it wasn't a good look. She would leave WWE in 2008 to care for her sick daughter. Massaro's entertainment career also involved a guest spot on the CW show Smallville, a stint on Survivor: China, and spots in two music videos. Two years ago, Massaro joined a class action lawsuit against WWE for its negligence towards brain trauma from repeated bumps by its performers. Additionally, Massaro alleged that she was sexually assaulted at a military base in Kuwait during the 2006 Tribute to the Troops. The WWE doctor at the time told her it was probably best not to report it to authorities. Both of those things combined might be enough to make someone swear off wrestling or at least WWE, and it once again paints an awful portrait of what receiving medical "care" in the company looks like. Regardless, Massaro stayed away from wrestling for nearly a decade before returning to a one-off indie appearance with Jillian Hall in 2017. According to former WWE wrestler Bull James (Bull Dempsey), Massaro was in training to return to the ring at the New York Wrestling Connection school. Even though her run in WWE wasn't critically acclaimed, she was still a performer that brought happiness to a lot of people for whatever reason. Any analysis of her time in WWE cannot be done without examining the climate in which she performed, and even thusly, no one should die before the age of 40. She touched a lot of people, whether her coworkers or her fans or especially her daughter. Ashley Massaro will be missed. Rest in peace.
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    05-17-2019, 11:13 AM
    BOMBS AWAAAAAAAAAAAAAY Photo Credit: WWE.com Beth Phoenix: replaces Percy Watson at the announce table Viking Cougar Mellencamp: come out Full Sailors: WAR! chants VCM: Over the past few weeks we've raided Monday Night Raw and brutalized the tag division.We're ar from done there but since we're still the champs...well, we'd like Mr. Regal to please join us out here right now. Master Regal: comes out Full Sailors: chant for him VCM: Since there's no one that can take the titles from us, we relinquish the titles. put them on Regal Full Sailors: D-Bry NO! chants Master Regal: I must say that I'm surprised. I Street Profits: come out Montez Ford: Y'all said no one, right? No one could beat you? A few weeks ago we brought the fight to you and maybe everyone else is scared of the Viking Raiders. But the NXT Universe realized, and you realized that we can beat you. Full Sailors: Ring the bell! Ring the bell! Ring the bell! Profits: About to relinquish the belts, you're on RAW ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh because deep down you know we can beat you, Viking Raiders. Angelo Dawkins: (sotto voce but loud enough) If those ARE your real names. the Rebranding Experience: drops their mics Not Rowe I Guess: (directly to Regal) Make the match. the Champions: leave Master Regal: makes the match Profits: try to get Regal to dance with them, which sadly fails to work God's Production Team: shows us last week's main and the subsequent online vid of Cole getting bleeped out multiple times yelling at Roddy Queen Cathy: I note Roderick Strong isn't with you guys this week. Is it due to the argument over Undisputed Era leadership? Adam Cole: I don't know where the man who cost me my match last week is. Random People in the Background: moving somewhere quickly and with intent Cole: So far as the leader of the Era, that's never been in question. And let me say this Roderick Strong: walks up I've been thinking about what happened all week, and you're right: we're stronger when we're on the same page. hands him a flip flop The Riddle problem has been taken care of. So what's next? Cole: chuckles, hands him an armband the Era: walk off together Cezar Bononi: comes out Keith Lee: comes out to a big pop Mauro Ranallo: notes both Keith and Dominik Dijakovic have had injury problems recently, scuttling the rematch for a bit Keith: Grizzly Magnum! Cezar: Body blows! And now to whip you into the ropes Keith: is not moved Cezar: Ahem! And NOW to whip you into the ropes Keith: see above Cezar: Maybe now I can Keith: yells Southpaw grammar! Shotei in the chest! Corner line! Pounce! Spirit Bomb! Referee: Winner! Queen Cathy: announces Shayna/Io for Ms. Goldie on the 1st the Forgotten Sons: are pissed the Profits are getting handled a title opportunity and go past her into Regal's office to complain Kona Reeves: this does not spark joy KUSHIDA: this does Kona: gets a brief advantage on the mat KUSHIDA: sees him and raises him Drew Gulak: is out to watch this match for no good reason besides setting up a dope match so let's do it Kona: Kneelift! Snaplex! Modified katihajime! KUSHIDA: lol sure thing nerd Gamengiri! Springboard chop! Handspring back elbow! Hiptoss into the cartwheel basement dropkick! Kona: bails KUSHIDA: Cannonball! PK to the arm! Around the horn into the Hoverboard Lock! Referee: Winner! Drew: understandably looks unmoved and leaves Bianca BelAir: coaching Queen Cathy through the hallway on their way to Regal's office Mia Yim: is around the corner from there Bianca: You out here probably trying to take away my title opportunity against Shayna but I already took care of you, see? Mia: I don't want Shayna, I want you. You didn't take care of me, you took a shortcut, and now I'm gonna handle my business. leaves Bianca: huffs, walks into Regal's office and slams the door Queen Cathy: :( Matt Riddle: getting his ribs taped up Johnny Gargano: talks to him and the doctor, then the invisible interviewer Well, they made the Bro angry. They'll regret that. I know they're coming for me since I'm holding Goldie, and I don't care - Master Regal's granted me a rematch with Cole on the 1st. Vanessa Borne: comes out with Aliyah Jessie: makes her NXTV debut Vanessa: pretty much squashes her Jessie: My spin heel kick is nice, though. Vanessa: My off the ropes twisting Christian DDT is better. By a lot. Referee: Winner! Profits: come out to challenge Raiders: come out to defend Rowe: Woo knee! Montez Ford: tags in Rowe: Judo knee! Raiders: Assisted hip attack! Angelo Dawkins: spears away the Mjolnir attempt He and Hanson: exchange three cartwheels Angelo: Spinebuster! Tag! Ford: Five shot frog splash! Hanson: Kickout! Forgotten Sons: as usual, show up and ruin everything Allied Strikers: come out a bit after that Profits: hit the Blockbuster Device on Rowe and Dawkins counts three before they leave Raiders: lay out the Sons and Strikers before laying down the belts and bowing
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    05-16-2019, 02:20 PM
    1 member is celebrating their birthday on 05-16-2019: -ToryDenmar (born in 1979, Age: 40) Happy Birthday!
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    05-16-2019, 01:35 PM
    Rhodes' AEW will be in good shape in a year, although decidedly without his wins/losses mattering shtick Photo Credit: Scott Finkelstein It's Twitter Request Line time, everyone! I take to Twitter to get questions about issues in wrestling, past and present, and answer them on here because 280 characters can't restrain me, fool! If you don't know already, follow me @tholzerman, and wait for the call on Wednesday to ask your questions. Hash-tag your questions #TweetBag, and look for the bag to drop Thursday afternoon (most of the time). Without further ado, here are your questions and my answers: where do you see AEW in a year? — You Can Call Me Bran (@TheBiggestLouer) May 15, 2019I was asked this question in a prior TweetBag with no real clarity of thought (and also with a longer timeframe), but now with the announcement of their landing on a prime cable television network with a streaming service to back it, I feel confident that All Elite Wrestling will be in a good spot next year. I feel like they'll surpass Ring of Honor pretty easily, since they have TNT and ROH has whatever godforsaken obscure network they're on now in addition to whatever Sinclair local stations they're on. They won't be close to WWE in terms of total revenue, but I can see them being culturally relevant and talked about as the "second-place" promotion. Of course, I'm not entirely sold on Cody Rhodes' vision for a more wins/losses and stats based approach to storytelling. I think you can do sports build without delving into the "WE'RE REALLY REALLLLLL" territory. It's telling that ROH and EVOLVE both kinda dropped their "wins and losses MATTER" identities pretty quickly. The best way to make wins and losses matter isn't by having a standings matrix as much as it is by telling great stories where the wins and losses do matter, but I'm preaching to the choir. My point is, don't be surprised if AEW is both still around and doing well in a year but also having dropped that whole identity as well. Protected user @earthdog asks: What is your take on Uber? #TweetBagUber sucks shit. That's the short answer. The long answer is also that Uber sucks shit, but here's why. In theory, a ridesharing app is a good idea, as long as that app is something that allows drivers to keep all of the proceeds. After all, the app itself, though vital to the process, does the least amount of heavy lifting. The onus for the upkeep of the car, security for unruly passengers, gas, and insurance is all on the driver. So unless the people behind the app decide that they're going to pay for all those incidental costs, they really have no right to anything outside of a nominal fee for usage of the app, which should probably be like one percent of the proceeds. For anyone who has ever used a ridesharing app, that is certainly not the case. Tech ghouls think they're entitled to money for inventing something that's already been invented with an ear towards totally eliminating the labor that makes the early stages possible. Haven't you heard that Uber will only become profitable when it has self-driving cars? Yeah, that was the endgame all along. So no, I do not support Uber or Lyft or any other ridesharing app that looks to snooker the American workforce out of even more money. Remember when WWE ran a MITB of all former world champions? What if it did one with all folks who had never been a top champ (including NXT)? Who would you put in and who would win? #TweetBag — Star of Savage (@StarOfSavage) May 15, 2019So you're taking away Sami Zayn, Kevin Owens, Big E, Andrade, Samoa Joe, and Aleister Black, eh? Oh fine. The layup selections are Braun Strowman (who skipped NXT), Ali (because you didn't say 205 Live counted), Xavier Woods, and Cesaro. Because you're allowing me to stock it, I'm eschewing Baron Corbin, who's a joke, and Bobby Lashley, who needs some retooling to be someone I'd want in this thing. Anyway, half the field is full, so I'm going to stock it with these four guys as well: Shelton Benjamin - He's Mr. Money in the Bank without ever winning, and you know what, he's the perfect guy to guide the action Zack Ryder - A gold watch opportunity, if you will (lol he's not winning) Rusev - The fact that he's not a main event dude in WWE right now speaks to a lot of flaws, so give him the opportunity. Keith Lee - He doesn't need the NXT Championship. He doesn't need NXT. Let him bask in the briefcase opportunity. As for who wins, I'm deep in my bias here, but it's gotta be Cesaro, man. Don't let him leave WWE as "the best guy never to win the title." Assuming all other things stay the same, what would cause a bigger positive impact on WWE's product: Vince being Thanos'd off the planet or AEW's weekly TV debuting and completely obliterating Raw and SmackDown in the ratings? — Jake (@CakeWithaJ) May 15, 2019I really don't know, because AEW just womping WWE in the ratings will lead McMahon to trying hard, and when he tries hard, bad things happen. Remember, he only really goes with good ideas that are not his, and nearly every boom period in WWE history under his watch has been by accident. Remember, he wanted to name Steve Austin "Chilly McFreeze," and Vince Russo — YES THAT VINCE RUSSO — had to talk him off the ledge and tell him to book an edgier, more realistic product. Of course, you can't give Russo too much credit, because *gestures broadly at the hundreds of awful midcard gimmicks that were scrapped after a month at the latest*. Anyway, him trying hard would make WWE even worse. However, if he were Thanos'd off the planet, and assuming Kevin Dunn went with him because he's the Smithers to McMahon's Mr. Burns, I'm not sure if WWE gets better. I mean, everyone knows that WWE writers have a thankless job because McMahon vetoes everything to put his insane babble on, but I've seen some ideas from writers that they've pitched, and hoo boy, they were some of the most awful shit ever. Plus, anyone using NXT as an example that Paul Levesque would do better ignores that NXT's top story for the last two years was rambling and overly complex even considering that Tommaso Ciampa has been snakebitten with injury luck. Plus, he's already booking parts of the show now, and I'm not sure you can blindly attribute the good things to him and the bad things to Dear Father-in-Law. So, what would be better? How about Vince McMahon dies AND AEW wallops WWE in the ratings. That might work. With Detective Pikachu a huge success, what other genre flicks in the Pkmn setting would you like to see next? — Hikari Sentai Maskman (@E_McDevitt) May 15, 2019First, allow me to give my review of Detective Pikachu. It rules. Hard. Go see it yesterday, even if you've never gotten any exposure to Pokémon in your life. As for other genre films, I am confident in saying that I think any of them could work as long as you didn't run down the path of modeling a movie out of the trainer lifestyle mold of the main RPGs/anime. I think if you want to see a movie about a trainer, you'd be better served to watch those animated movies featuring Ash Ketchum. If they stay away from that mold, they could have an incredibly successful live-action thing going. The world of Pokémon is as expansive and diverse as you could ever want it to be. You could do a ghost story movie centered around Giratina or just plain old Ghost-types in a haunted house or even having Mimikyu bother Pikachu. You could do a Godzilla-style kaiju movie involving any of the behemoth legendary/mythical monsters from the various games, like Dialga vs. Palkia or Groudon vs. Kyogre. You could adapt Pokémon Mystery Dungeon into a treasure-hunting Indiana Jones-type movie. Hell, if they even wanted to, they could do a Must Love Dogs-style rom-com with Pokémon in the dog role. The possibilities are endless. If wwe were forced to treat their “independent contractors” like actual independent contractors what would that look like? —
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    05-15-2019, 02:20 PM
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    05-15-2019, 01:35 PM
    Is the briefcase McIntyre's to lose? Photo Credit: WWE.com Yesterday, I handicapped the women's Money in the Bank match. Today, I will handicap the men's match, which I feel will probably close the show after reports that the McMahon-Levesque-Dunn regime at the top of the company is blaming women's wrestling for its recent downturn in ratings. Sure, it's not the fact that the company has sucked at creating stars in the last who knows how many years or that the scripts regularly get rewritten because an insane septuagenarian has a change of heart. It's the women, sure. Before I get into the actual oddsmaking, I'd like to publicly vent that WWE put its fifth (or fourth, depending on how you feel about Survivor Series) biggest pay-per-view, not only right after WrestleMania, but head-to-head with the Game of Thrones series finale. That is some stinky bullshit, let me tell you. Vince McMahon will cower from the National Football League, putting on big segments of RAW directly across from halftime of Monday Night Football, which thanks to Sunday Night Football's prominence in the last decade has become a shell of its former importance, but he won't shift things around so that his theoretically starmaking show isn't across from the latest instance of monoculture. Like, he couldn't have put Backlash or Payback or Wrestling Match: The Pay-Per-View opposite the finale if he was going to run there at all? Fuck that shit, man. Anyway, now that that's off my chest, the men's Money in the Bank match odds: Sami Zayn - 1,000,000/1 Zayn's new character where he's actively feuding with the fans absolutely sucks. Like, I like Zayn a lot, and I think he's great at making lemonade out of lemons, but this shit has been played by WWE for so long that it hurts me to see a guy so talented going back to telling the fans to go to hell just to get heel heat. Just the cheapest of cheap bullshit that really has no endgame in sight. I mean, what's the point of this? Is he gonna go into the crowd and offer up everyone in attendance at WrestleMania for a fair one? However, that's not the reason he's not winning the briefcase. I guarantee Braun Strowman will murk him at stealing his spot at some point, whether before the match or during it. If Zayn comes anywhere close to winning this briefcase, I will eat every single hat in my household. Braun Strowman - 100/1 I have no doubts Strowman will play into this match, whether forcibly replacing Zayn after giving him The Mountain-on-Oberyn Martell treatment (don't click the link if you're squeamish, that's a content warning for INSANELY GRAPHIC VIOLENCE), or just by showing up because he's the Monster among Men. But as for winning? If he didn't beat Brock Lesnar at Saudi Fuck Money II: Fucklectric Boogaloo, he's not winning the title ever, or at least not soon. He'll be the next in the line of Andre the Giant-types for a company that has not booked one correctly since Andre the Giant was still alive. The Field - 100/1 Again, I don't really see an out-of-nowhere winner here either. It's not the year with more than a few guys who could win the thing in play. Ricochet - 50/1 Ricochet rules, and I think he could be the guy who breaks through for little dudes on the main roster. That being said, it's not gonna be this year. He's in the match to do some crazy shit and probably take a gigantic bump that no one other than Jeff Hardy would in their right minds would ever take. He will come out of the match looking like an absolute star, no doubt, but I will be surprised if he wins the thing. Baron Corbin - 25/1 I know they refreshed his character, and he's quietly become a main event guy on RAW. I'm not sure if that's more a commentary on how bad WWE is at allocating talent or how much Corbin has improved, but that's besides the point. That being said, his first Money in the Bank run was one of the limpest and weakest ever produced. I mean, at least Damien Sandow lost his a few months after the fact and not a few weeks. I think he'll continue to be in the main event periphery, but I don't think they make the same mistake again of giving him the briefcase. Mustafa Ali - 20/1 Vince McMahon loves taking components of peoples' names from them almost as much as he likes withholding things like health insurance and being able to be called employees. Regardless, Kofimania doesn't happen if Ali doesn't get hurt, and even though I doubt WrestleMania was going to feature him if he didn't get hurt, I think they might play that note for an embittered run to the top for the former Beating Heart of 205 Live. Would I turn Ali heel? No, but again, WWE hasn't met a person on its roster it didn't want to give a black hat to unless they were on top of the show. It's not extremely likely, but Ali is where the tide starts turning from "unlikely" to "yeah, I can see it." Finn Bálor - 12/1 I feel like that SummerSlam '16 match was it for Bálor. McMahon saw him get hurt, and you know how much he detests things like sickness and injury and sees it as a fault unless he has some weird justification to continue pushing him. For some reason, Bálor doesn't have that justification. Weird. Anyway, I can't totally discount him because you never know, but he feels like another "special attraction" type dude who'll always gravitate around the midcard titles. Randy Orton - 5/1 Every once in awhile, WWE will turn around and give a veteran a briefcase win just for the hell of it. Orton seemed to have gotten that in 2013, but he didn't as it was part of a larger storyline, maybe his last gasp as a major main event guy who wasn't just some dude on the periphery. That being said, I have this fear that WWE will give him the Kane/Big Show win just because he has that OUT OF NOWHERE finish that works so well with a cash-in. In fact, now that John Cena is off making movies, and Orton has absolutely no mainstream marketability, he's definitely going to win so HE can break Ric Flair's Championship record, isn't he? Oh no. OH NO. ORTON'S GONNA WIN AND I'M GONNA PUKE ALL OVER THE FLOOR AAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!! Andrade "Cien" Almas - 5/2 Seriously, McMahon chopping up people's names is just fuckin' weird. Anyway, Andrade might be the Mexican superstar they've allegedly wanted forever, and he isn't old and battered like Rey Mysterio or an utter shithead like Alberto del Rio. I've been projecting him to win even before last year's match, and when he wasn't in it, I shook my head. The thing is, he'd be the perfect winner, especially with Zelina Vega directing him on when to cash in. The only problem is one other guy feels like he has a better shot... Drew McIntyre - 2/1 ...and it's the guy who wrestled Roman Reigns at WrestleMania. Ever since WWE hired him back, McIntyre has felt destined to cash in on the promise he was laden with when he came up to main for the first time all those years ago. Whether he'll be a good briefcase-holder or Champion remains to be seen, but they seem really, really high on him this time around. While on the surface it feels like a no-brainer, the only thing keeping me from going sub-1/1 odds on him is I feel like Andrade is just as viable and very much in play in case they want to "swerve" people from the obvious choice. And thus the odds for Money in the Bank have been laid down. Now, enjoy as someone from out of leftfield wins both matches!
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    05-15-2019, 11:08 AM
    AEW made it to TNT All Elite Wrestling, the company backed by Tony Khan's billions and run by the collective of Cody Rhodes and the Young Bucks, has found a home on television, and guess where that home is... We’re back in the wrestling business! #AEW @AEWrestling pic.twitter.com/1DVRLRdQgd — TNT Drama (@tntdrama) May 15, 2019 Yep, TNT, the home of World Championship Wrestling Monday Nitro for the better part of a decade, will air the fledgling wrestling company's television output. This deal has been rumored for awhile now with conflicting reports on what the financial situation would be. More than a few people reported that AEW would be paying for time on TNT like their wrestling was an infomercial. This practice may seem backwards given how much money networks are tripping over themselves to give WWE, but it's not an uncommon practice historically at least. More than a few promotions in the territory days bought time on local television, the most notable being Memphis/Mid-South. However, they could buy the time locally because local TV was cheap and Memphis was one of the most lucrative, well-attended territories. Dave Meltzer, however, reported that it wasn't a time-buy. On one hand, he's the closest wrestling "journalist" to Rhodes and the Bucks, but on the other, a lot of his opinion pieces have been overly flattering to the group, both in the ring and out, so people have raised questions whether he's reporting or repeating propaganda. To be honest, I really don't care either way. Besides, if they did have to buy time on TNT, look whom they have backing the fucking company. Tony Khan can shell out the money, so he should. Either way, the official report from Hollywood Reporter doesn't make mention of the financials, but it did make sure to include the least flattering picture of Chris Jericho they could find. TNT having wrestling again evokes a certain nostalgia, and the network didn't really help dissuade that affinity for the past by using inferno in the background that was a trademark of Nitro's aesthetic. Hopefully, AEW doesn't try to evoke the more negative portions of WCW, as in the bait-and-switch booking and egos run amok. Of course, it'll be hard to tell what path the promotion will tread until it runs a first official show. Speaking of which, part of the deal includes streaming of Double or Nothing, and I would assume other special events, on Turner's Bleacher Report streaming service. No matter what way you slice it, getting on TNT or Turner networks in general after the company wanted to rid itself of wrestling in 2002 (the reason why Vince McMahon was able to buy WCW in the first place) is a coup for AEW. Even though cable TV is declining in importance, it's not dead yet, and TNT is certainly at least five steps above whatever bobo channels Ring of Honor or Impact Wrestling have been relegated to, although I really shouldn't talk shit about Pop TV. That network has given the world Schitt's Creek, one of the best shows of the last five years. But I digress. AEW getting such prominent television is only good news, not just for them, but for wrestling itself.
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    05-15-2019, 07:25 AM
    Sullivan's been fined Photo Credit: WWE.com So last week, I wrote about how Lars Sullivan shouldn't have a job. I bemoaned that WWE wouldn't do anything about it because the people in charge share the same values, only not as vitriolic in a public venue where they can be documented. The only way any action would be made is if someone went to the sponsors, which would then trigger a public relations headache. Sponsor-action has precedent, as Mars Wrigley Confectionery put pressure on them to remove Fabulous Moolah's name from the Women's WrestleMania Battle Royal after people pressured them not to name such a match after an abusive pimp. As it turns out, MWC once again was the player that would put the pressure on WWE to get something done. Fans started writing the candy giant to act once again. They gave this response to people who wrote them: "Dear Loyal Consumer, Thank you for reaching out to Mars Wrigley Confectionery with your comments. We learned of Lars Sullivan's comments recently and share in your shock and disgust. As a values-based company, we find his behavior abhorrent and unacceptable. We have engaged the WWE to discuss this situation and seek to understand what actions they will take to swiftly address this matter. We hope this information is helpful and wish you a great day! Your Friends at Mars Wrigley Confectionery"Before I start with the facts here, allow me to interject that in no way do I think MWC deserves any praise for this. They're not a "values-based company" unless that value is cash. Associating with a company that allows bigots to work for them without fear of reprisal costs them money. Anyway, the outcry from fans and response from MWC got some balls rolling, first with Sullivan himself, who limply attempted to give an apology, "There is no excuse for the inappropriate remarks that I made years ago. They do not reflect my personal beliefs nor who I am today, and I apologize to anyone I offended." If you note here, he didn't apologize for being a racist, sexist, xenophobic idiot. He apologized if you were offended, which is like if I ran you over and then apologized if your day was inconvenienced. Yesterday, more action came about, as it was announced Sullivan would be fined $100,000 and sent to sensitivity training. On one hand, WWE did something where I thought it wouldn't, which is shocking. Additionally, for a low-card guy, $100,000 is a lot of money, and White supremacists should be hit where it hurts. On the other, it still feels like a relative slap on the wrist. I am skeptical that sensitivity training would work for someone who professed to love a band that sang about how the Holocaust was good, and all sensitivity training might do is teach him how to hide his racism better. Plus, if he sticks with WWE, that $100,000 will end up being a drop in the bucket. All of this feels like a bunch of circus to deflect from the fact that Vince McMahon is a White supremacist and runs his company with those values in mind. Still though, they did something, for as flaccid and showy as it was, so I guess I have to say I was wrong in that respect. I don't take it as a big loss though.
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    05-14-2019, 02:20 PM
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    05-14-2019, 11:39 AM
    Will Mandy Rose be standing victorious over Ember Moon and others on Sunday? Photo Credit: WWE.com Every year, I handicap the field for Money in the Bank, and this year, I may be more woefully prepared for it than in any other year because I am woefully divorced from the weekly product. However, being wildly uninformed has never stopped me from prognosticating before, and I am shamelessly unafraid of being wrong. Therefore, I will continue the tradition this year for both the men's and women's matches. Today, I will run down the women's match and give each of its competitors odds. How fun! The Field - 1000/1 This includes anyone who isn't already in the match except for one, whom I will cover later. I don't see WWE coming with an out-of-leftfield choice, not even Shayna Baszler, who really should lose the NXT World Women's Championship at Takeover: Bridgeport. The winner will come from the announced, or from a more prominent position. Dana Brooke - 75/1 God bless Dana Brooke, but no matter how spunky her character gets or how much she improves, I don't see her getting the briefcase, at least not yet. She wouldn't be the worst choice though, but just not this year. Becky Lynch - 50/1 Lynch is defending each one of her titles in separate matches, so the odds that she loses one are good. She has a precedent, crashing the party at the Royal Rumble after failing to capture the Smackdown Women's Championship from Asuka, so if she loses one or both of her titles, I would expect she has a shot to do the same here and win. It's a greater shot than anyone else not already in the match, but I still don't think it's an incredibly good one. That being said, I think if she loses the Smackdown title to Charlotte Flair, her odds are slightly better than if she loses the RAW title to Lacey Evans. God, that felt dirty to write. Lacey Evans as a Champion in WWE already. God. Natalya - 25/1 Nattie is where the field starts to get a little spicy. She feels like she has an outside shot to win because WWE does this every once in awhile, having a seemingly unviable veteran win to kickstart a nostalgia run. Kane and Big Show are two prime examples of this. While Natalya doesn't feel like a real good shot to win the briefcase, well, I can't completely count her out. Carmella - 15/1 The first ever Women's Money in the Bank winner could win again because she's young enough to be given another shot with the ball, and she's been so far out of focus in the narrative that her winning would come off as a legitimate shock. That being said, now that Smackdown belongs to Flair, I don't see them running that mini-program back. But she's not the most out-there candidate to win. Naomi - 10/1 On one hand, I feel like Naomi is considered "past her prime" by the office, someone who is kept around to tick diversity quota boxes and as a familiar, fan-friendly face. On the other, WWE does like familiar, and Naomi has never really had a true run on top despite being the one person WWE could push to the top of its women's division that would get Stephanie McMahon all the fucking great PR she wants. So I think she has a decent shot of winning, if still outside. Ember Moon - 8/1 Moon is a tremendous talent, but unless she turns heel, I can't slot her any higher than maybe the fourth-best odds to win. Of course, a heel turn is always in the cards for anyone not named Roman Reigns and possibly Lynch right now, and she fits the mold for a briefcase winner. She's young, hungry, and positioned to be special, the biggest sign of which is they gave her a really awful nickname that came from either Vince McMahon or Paul Levesque. That is unless Mauro Ranallo came up with the name "Shenom" all by himself, which I can't totally discount. Anyway, while I feel like Moon's first title win will come clean, in the middle of the ring in a match she was announced for beforehand with her boss finisher, I'll refrain from making her an all-in favorite. Bayley - 5/1 I don't think WWE has given up on Bayley completely, even if her linked-by-career life mate Sasha Banks has one gilded foot out the door. I also cannot rule out the asinine idea of a heel turn when her babyface studio space on the main roster has only been explored by opening the door and stepping into the foyer. I don't feel really good about these odds, but if Bayley's in a career-changing match where she could be refitted for a fresh run, I can't put her any lower than third on the list. Alexa Bliss - 2/1 Whatever anyone says Reigns is in WWE booking is exactly what Bliss is. It's not that she's not bad; though she's not the best worker, she has the best handle on character chops. WWE needs women on top that can do things like "get heel heat" and "cut promos." That doesn't necessarily mean that she should win. But because she, along with Flair, is one of Vince McMahon's favored daughters in the division, I can see her snaking a second straight win. In fact, my fatalistic Spidey Sense with WWE booking almost dictates that she will win. Mandy Rose - 1/1 Rose ticks so many boxes for WWE's ideal woman wrestler it's not even funny. They tried making Eva Marie a thing even though she couldn't wrestle her way out of a wet paper bag. Well, Rose has a similar look, but she can actually wrestle competently. Just because WWE is pushing a women's revolution that says it doesn't matter how you look doesn't mean they're not lying. They still want someone insanely hot and insanely White to be at the top of the division. Rose is just that. My fatalism with WWE booking may still expect Bliss to win, but common sense seems to dictate that since WWE trends "newer" with the women's winner (and believe me, though Bliss already had a few reigns for her win, she was still comparatively "new"), Rose has to be the play. I'll be back tomorrow with the men's handicap!
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    05-14-2019, 10:19 AM
    Rest in Peace, Good Brother Photo via WWE.com César Cuauhtémoc González Barrón, better known as the luchador Silver King, passed away Saturday in London, England. He was 51 years old. Silver King was wrestling for the Lucha Libre World promotion against Juventud Guerrera, when he collapsed suddenly from what is believed to be a myocardial infarction. Medics administered CPR to him in the ring, but he died before an ambulance got there. The show was cancelled when the incident happened. According to The Cubs Fan (via his @luchablog account), Silver King collapsed after delivering a clothesline to Guerrera. He collapsed to all fours and then his body shut down. Someone took video of the whole thing, but out of consideration to people who may not want to see a person die on video, I will not be sharing it. Silver King was an icon across Mexico. Son of legendary Dr. Wagner and brother to Dr. Wagner, Jr., he was a prolific wrestler across several promotions. Basically, he worked every promotion in the '90s except WWE. If you don't remember him from World Championship Wrestling, you might have seen him in the movie Nacho Libre, where he played the villain Ramses. He began his career masked, but he lost his hood to El Hijo del Santo in a lucha de apuesta in 1987. In more recent years, he'd scaled back on wrestling and decided he would concentrate on promotion in his native Torreon. Much like with Perro Aguayo, Jr.'s death in 2015, most of the onus for Silver King's death can be placed on slow reaction to giving him medical care. Would he still be alive if he had been administered first aid more immediately and if an ambulance had been called as soon as he collapsed? It's hard to say. However, with the nature of emergencies involving the cardiovascular system, the quicker the reaction to treatment, the more of a chance the victim has of surviving. It's not a problem confined to lucha libre either. The co-promoted PROGRESS/Gabe Sapolsky joint from 2017 saw a fan pass out and shit himself with delayed activation of emergency medical services. Still, regardless of any other implications, Silver King was a bonafide legend in lucha libre and in wrestling in total. He will be sorely missed, and 51 is far too young for anyone to die, wrestler or otherwise. Rest in Peace, Silver King.
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    05-13-2019, 03:32 PM
    Another Taker match? snooooooze Photo Credit: WWE.com Both WWE and All Elite Wrestling announced matches for upcoming supercards today, the former for its latest Saudi Fuck Money show, Saudi Super Showdown, and the latter for its formal debut as a company, Double or Nothing. One match will resonate with more people, obviously, so it might seem unfair to compare the two, but when time has created enough distance between the present and those two shows, the other one will seem far more important to the advancement of the art of wrestling. I'll start with WWE's first: The #Undertaker and @Goldberg are set to clash for the first time ever on June 7 at #WWESSD! https://t.co/cwL3Iq82ct — WWE (@WWE) May 13, 2019This match would've done NUMBERS in like 2003, and it might have even been good. But now? Well, stranger things have happened, but Taker is broken down and Goldberg's story ending at WrestleMania 33 felt right. Now, AEW's offering: #AEW #DoubleOrNothing Sat, May 25th #LasVegas @MGMGrand #GardenArena Aja Kong, Yuka Sakazaki, Emi Sakura vs Hikaru Shida, Riho, Ryo Mizunami#AEWDoN pic.twitter.com/7oweOR5jvs — All Elite Wrestling (@AEWrestling) May 13, 2019To a good portion of people watching Double or Nothing, only Aja Kong might be recognizable. Chances are that at best, non-joshi fans will look at this graphic and only see three names they recognize (Kong, Emi Sakura, Hikaru Shida). Certainly, I'd need primers on the other three wrestlers, but that's not the point here. People will tune into Double or Nothing to see Chris Jericho vs. Kenny Omega or the Rhodes Brothers imploding or what have you. Once upon a time, people tuned into an Extreme Championship Wrestling pay-per-view to see Sabu vs. Taz and Raven vs. either Terry Funk, Stevie Richards, or The Sandman. Six guys whom most Americans barely knew at the time stole the show. The Michinoku Pro tag match, featuring Great Sasuke, Gran Hamada and Masato Yakushiji vs. Men's TEIOH, Dick Togo, and TAKA Michinoku, is still looked upon fondly to this day, and it got Sasuke and TAKA into WWE in a match on what is still considered one of the greatest in-ring pay-per-views ever, In Your House: Canadian Stampede. Kong, Sakazaki, Sakura, Shida, Riho, and Mizunami can conceivably steal the show in the same manner. Kong and Sakura already are two of the greatest of all-time in joshi, and the other four will be hungry to show the greater world what they can do. That in a nutshell shows the difference between WWE and the promotions trying bite at its worldwide hegemony. WWE is getting money from a genocidal regime that asks it for wrestlers decades out of practice and who may even be dead, while even AEW, which is still corporately-backed and not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, is taking chances on elite foreign talent to put some life in the American scene that could use it. ECW was always the overachieving indie and WWE at the time was far behind World Championship Wrestling in the national race. They took chances and got on national cable and ended up catching and beating WCW respectively. Things like this joshi trios match could end up mollifying AEW as cutting edge, while WWE is currently doing its best WCW imitation by doing seniors tour shit in Saudi Arabia. Even as their financial hegemony grows larger, it's still the best sign that the company might be facing competition sooner rather than later.
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    05-13-2019, 02:20 PM
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    05-13-2019, 01:10 PM
    Reigns is a star, but who else is? That's a problem. Photo Credit: WWE.com About two weeks ago, friend of the blog Sean Reuter posted something at Cageside Seats about how Avengers: Endgame and Game of Thrones showed how WWE is lacking in terms of audience satisfaction. It's a good piece that touches on why at least the MCU has been able to engender such a positive response, both monetarily and critically while chiding WWE for the same things that everyone's been chiding them for over the last, I don't know, 50-plus years of its existence. If WWE runs a storyline, an amount of people above replacement will come out to critique its narrative direction, and rightly so. While the company can do beginnings well, the only times it has achieved satisfactory resolutions on a grand scale have been by accident, most recently with Becky Lynch's coronation at WrestleMania 35, which only happened after she went supernova and crashed the all-blonde party that had been written in stone since Brock Lesnar sent a confused and tired crowd home even more dissatisfied than they'd have been if Roman Reigns had beaten him. However, it's not as if WWE has never been a media company with high customer satisfaction. Entertainment outfits, pro wrestling or otherwise, don't last as long as the juggernaut in American "sports entertainment" does if everyone hates it enough not to watch. Fans hating what they watch and continuing to come back out of sadism or what have you is just as effective as someone hungrily eating up everything the company puts out when it comes to bottom line. WWE reached supernova in popularity twice before the 21st Century began. Their success in this century, namely in the last decade or so, has not been as peaked as in the past, but it has been enough to start integrating wrestling into the culture in ways that it is no longer sheer mockery for fans. In case you were wondering if the writing was better in those boom periods, well, let me tell you that no, it clearly wasn't. I mean, the most notable angle during the first boom period saw the hero meddle in a relationship and demonize the man whose woman he stole at best and at worst was two idiots treating a living, breathing human being as meat. The second boom period regularly had nonsensical swerves for swerve's sake, people breaking the fourth wall for no reason other than to titillate the smart assholes for a moment, and reveling in sex as degeneracy, disguising sex negativity in the flimsy cloak of positivity. More recent, any time WWE has pushed someone who didn't have indie bona fides in the top spot, fans revolted because those characters were "being pushed down their throats," and honestly, if you looked at the way the company wrote those guys, whether John Cena, Randy Orton, or Roman Reigns, those rebellious fans may have had a point. Wrestling has almost never been driven by great writing or storytelling, at least not in WWE. Other territories might have been able to do on writing and angle-building alone, but that would involve arguments on whether the stars sold the angles or if the angles made the stars. Memphis and Jerry Lawler is probably the best example of this chicken/egg argument, and I'm not well-versed enough in that territory to give you a definitive answer. But with WWE, the driving force has always been the wrestlers and their outsized personalities. Hulk Hogan, Randy Savage, and to an extent Andre the Giant were larger than life, and it didn't matter if the stories they were scripted to tell fell apart under the lightest scrutiny. Steve Austin, The Rock, and to an extent Vince McMahon and Mick Foley were caricatures of real life characters and they told stories that provided vicarious fulfillment for a working class growing ever so disenchanted with the idea of noble management knowing what was best. Cena and Reigns are action figures come to life who are insanely marketable and personable. Does it matter if Hogan really was a malignant shit who was really a brat on steroids crying until he got his way? The answer is "not as long as he dropped the leg and posed after the match, brother." It all goes back to K. Sawyer Paul's theory of wrestling fans back from when he still did the International Object podcast. He split the groups into three. Wrestling fans are the first group, and they're people who stick with the sport/art no matter what. The second group is comprised of fans of wrestlers or individuals, those who see a "Stone Cold" Steve Austin or a Roman Reigns, and are immediately drawn to them. The third group is made up of fans of movements, or those who come on board because it's the "cool thing" and everyone else is doing it. The way I see it, the third group comes from the second one, at least for WWE. Wrestling fans don't create movements, to be honest, or at least they haven't had the power to until maybe very recently if at all. It's the people who see everyone flocking around those cults of personality and attract those who wanna be part of the cool kids' club. Good writing doesn't really attract that kind of audience, at least not at first, in any form of media, let alone wrestling. Yeah, Breaking Bad and The Sopranos were prestige television with great plotting and storytelling, but they were both on little-watched networks for television series when they started. No one really thought of HBO or A&E as places to go for television, and it took time for those shows to change the reputation. Now it could be argued that both networks are so far removed from their origins BECAUSE of those shows and the years they were on the air. That's why treating "fixing the writing" as a short-term solution for WWE is misguided. If shows from scratch took so much time to garner a larger following because of their writing (I admit both shows were popular relatively when they started, but they weren't network TV popular until towards the end), how long is it going to take for WWE, a company that is known for bad stories from an insane, drug-addled carny who hates the business he inherited, to rehab their image for narrative integrity? Hell, it's not like the MCU itself is a bastion of great writing. Outside of a few entries like Thor: Ragnarok and possibly Iron Man, every single MCU movie followed a formula that restricted director freedom and was made to maximize fan interest by capitalizing on pulp on the big screen. It just so happens that Kevin Feige's formula is a lot more fan-friendly than Vince McMahon's. As for Game of Thrones, this final season has really exposed David Benioff and DB Weiss as fraudulent writers, or at least guys who lost their fastball and have contracted a major case of senioritis with these last episodes. Yet people will still watch or binge to catch up for the finale Sunday, some out of habit, but some because the show delivers visually, whether it be nudity, violence, or cgi dragons. Sometimes, the spectacle is enough. Much has been made of WWE's struggles, and honestly, it is a direct result of them punting on the spectacle. It has forgotten how to create stars, or even more sinister, Vince McMahon has successfully created a WWE where the name on the marquee matters more than the wrestlers, and where the real stars are his fucking family. I mean, the evidence is in all the marquee WrestleMania matches that have to rely on part-timers and returning stars from the past. It's hilarious that this year's Mania was considered an anomaly because all three competitors spent the last year as full-timers on the main roster, and yet one of them, Ronda Rousey, went on her babymaking hiatus as soon as she took that weird pinfall, an opportunity afforded to her only because she came in with massive amounts of mainstream credibility and crossover appeal, which in essence makes her no better than the Lesnars and the Triple Hs in the long-run. You can argue that WWE has characters that are over, but are they the kinds of wrestlers who attract the Fans of Wrestlers/Individuals that marked the other boom periods? Daniel Bryan gets people to boo him vociferously, but how many people when asked about him now will either go "who?" or cite WrestleMania XXX as their most recent base of knowledge? If you ask someone to identify five members of the current WWE roster and tell them Rousey, Cena, Triple H, and Lesnar aren't eligible, would they struggle after naming Reigns and possibly Lynch? To me, this is the core problem of WWE. Something cool happens, and it attracts people to tune in, and then they see that person get booked into 50/50 oblivion like they weren't special, and then you go back to doing something with your life other than trying to invest in something that makes a point to let you know that no one in the company is allowed to stand out. I'm not sure this changes when Vince McMahon dies, to be honest. NXT right now is probably the best wrestling the megacorporation puts out right now, and even that gets tainted by Paul "Triple H" Levesque's massive ego. He opens big Takeover events from time to time (although he's kinda cooled on it lately), and you can't really do anything good without skipping out on a selfie with him afterwards. Given how self-centered his narrative in WWE has been ever since his initial push to the top in late '99, you can't plausibly deny that he's doing it to get attention for himself, not to give attention to all the indie darlings he's hand-picking out for your enjoyment. So much hand-wringing, a bunch that I admittedly have myself written, has been made over the quality of writing, but the best executed story won't mean shit if the people don't care about the people in said story, or if the matches surrounding it get driven into the ground with parity booking. Can you make a Steve Austin-level star just by booking the right people to win all the time? Probably not, but you can at least get someone to Cena/Reigns level. Having just one wrestler win all the time or feel important isn't enough, and when you choose people the way the Democratic party chooses presidential candidates, then it just stunts growth everywhere else. This is the fundamental change to WWE, at least creatively, that people should be focusing on. Of course, it's not as important as keeping the pressure on the company not to have Stormfront users on the roster, to provide his roster with simple benefits as "health insurance" and "not being abused by being designated an independent contractor," not to donate to a literal fascist, and not to do business with a genocidal nation, but you can focus on a lot of things as a time unless you're someone like, say, Chris Cillizza, in which case you should be given something shiny to look at and keep you busy for the day.
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    To quote Rod Stewart, "Oh, no! Not again!" Photo Credit: WWE.com Mia Yim and Bianca BelAir: both come out to solid pops Both: exchange holds on the mat, go for dropkicks at the same time and come up flashing the Wakanda Forever! handsign Bianca: I see you! I see you, okay! Mia: Yeah, I see you! Right? offers the Hand of Friendship Bianca: feints reciprocating then throws her down by the hair GURL. UH uh! I'm un de fea Mia: kicks her in the arm and lands the dropkick Who do you think you tried that on? Legroll! Basement dropkick! Strike party! Pele! Cannonball! Bianca: NOPE! Stomphole! Cravate! 747! Mia: Kickout! Bianca: starts working her back over You want my spot? Fight me! Mia: tries and fails to hit her several times Bianca: shoves her down and poses Mia: Flying guillotine! Bianca: Snaplex counter! Ragdolled cravate! Master Regal: presumably nodded backstage Bianca: 1494! Mia: does the math Knees up! Double throat chop! Shotgun dropkick! Cannonball! Tarantula! Sunset flip! Bianca: Counter! holds the ropes Jess: You can't do that! Bianca: Can't do what? Mia: Counter! Bianca: Counter! wraps her braid around the middle rope Jess: Winner! Mia: Wait, what?!No way! No! NO! That's BS! Bianca: shrugs from the ramp and mocks Mia's complaints then blows her a kiss and hits her twirl WWEPC Security Cam Footage: shows the Sons jumping the Viking Cougar Mellencamp Experience "Earlier Today" at the PC: Shayna oversees a sparring session between the Underlings Io Shirai: stomps in the place and jumps all over her the MMA Horsewomen: swarm her Candice LeRae: shows up and throws some shots too Robbie Brookside and Other Assorted Black Shirts: break it up Raul Mendoza: comes out with a new Tron Riddick Moss: comes out with a new Tron, is working on becoming a Masterpiece Announce: hypes the Riddick Regimen, his Simon Dean type thing Moss: powers Mendoza to the corner then yells at Jess I'm on my own count! flexes Raul: controls the arm and flexes himself Moss: grabs a massager and uses it on the arm Raul: Thigh kicks! Gamengiri! Springboard rana! Running SSP! Moss: Kickout! catches Mendoza and does curls with him Hallaway slam! does some pushups Full Sailors: BOOOOOO Moss: Charging corner spear! Press spinebuster! has some water, offers Raul some Raul: knocks it away Basement dropkick! Moss: goes flying into the middle buckle Raul: Headscissors into the top buckle! Step up Owenzuigiri! goes all the way up Moss: flies at him Raul: dodges to the apron Gamengiri! Springboard tornillo! Jess: Winner? Holy shit, look at that: winner! Raul: OMG Full Sailors: cheer loudly Matt Riddle: comes out cooly and offers some front row Full Sailors the Bro Bump Adam Cole, BAY BAY: in a mirror of last week's main, comes out solo Riddle: controls Cole on the mat for 3 straight exchanges Cole: bails Riddle: controls him on the mat some more then sees him drop down too soon Broton! Three Amibros rolling gutwrench suplays! Full Sailors: Bro! Bro! Bro! Bro! Cole: yanks him to the mat from the second rope Pump kick! Full Sailors: Cole: Figure fourheadlock! Stomphole! Rude Awakening! Dragon sleeper! Riddle: grabs Cole's head after a few beats and knees it Cole: Crack back elbow smash! Full Sailors: Both these guys! Both these guys! Both these guys! Cole: I'm an uncrowned champion! You're a joke! You're pathetic! Both: go Reseda mid-ring Cole: Leaping Owenzuigiri! Riddle: Release German! Hard strikes! Pele kick! Corner charging forearms! Exploder! PK! Cole: Dodge! Riddle: Standing moonsault! Cole: Dodge II: the Redodge...ining! Riddle: Broton II: the Splattening! PK! Cole: Kickout! Riddle: German to the bridge! Cole: Kickout! Full Sailors: (...well, mostly) Let's go, Bro! Let's go, Bro! Let's go, Bro! Cole: Pump kick! Oshigoroshi! Riddle: ...kickout! Cole: goes for a suplex Riddle: knees it away Ripcord knee!Go to Sleep, Bro! Cole: Get your Back Stabbed instead, dude! Riddle: ...kickout. Bromission! Cole: The Velveteenest of counters! Riddle: C R O C O P Cole: slumps Riddle: Fisherman's buster! Annnnd...fisherman's buster! And Cole: Last Shot v1! Riddle: ... Riddle: ... Riddle: ...kickout Full Sailors: Fight Forever! clap clap clapclapclap Fight Forever! clap clap clapclapclap Fight Forever! clap clap clapclapclap Riddle: throws strikes Cole: Superkick! Riddle: turtles Cole: ah ah ahhhhhhhhh! I didn't say when! One for flinching, since for that matter I didn't say here, either superkicks the knee Panama Sunset! Riddle: Caught! Powerbomb! Cole: Yet another artful dodge! Riddle: wait wha Cole: ENZUI superkick! Full Sail Last Shot! Riddle: ... Riddle: ... Riddle: ...s shoulder flumps up at 2.8 Full Sailors: NXT! NXT! NXT! NXT! Mauro: immediately notes the only kickouts to that move occurred just now and during Takeover: NY's main event Cole: LOWERS THE KNEEPAD Riddle: tries to grab him Cole: Jumping Owenzuigiri! Riddle: Pump knee! Bro To Sleep! Powerbomb! Cole: wait wha Riddle: Ripcord knee II face! Cole: sluices outside Roderick Strong: comes out and helps Cole up Riddle: Screw it. Somebody's eating this PK! Roddy: shoves Cole down and eats it Riddle: throws Cole in and notices Roddy on the floor, front somersault flips into the Cole: Superkick! Riddle: ... Riddle: ... Riddle: ...kickout and reversal into the Bromission! Cole: ... Cole: ... Cole: ... ... ... ... taps Kyle O'Reilly: comes out and shoves Roddy -- not full strength but not fully pulled, either the Undisputed Era: swarm the ring Riddle: is already out and strutting his way to the back Announce: calls it the biggest win of his NXTenure Roddy: tries to help him up Cole: won't take it Not rEDragon: are forced to try and keep the peace Roddy: can't be heard but is clearly gesturing with his body language he got the ref's attention to the ring ASAP after the superkick Full Sailors: first chant for them to fight, then to hug it out Roddy: puts his hands up in compliance but leaves on a different side of the ring than Cole Bobby: follows him to the back trying to explain ("trying to explain"?) Kyle: tries to console Cole, who's stomping off to the back Cole: loud enough that the camera work picks it up, even though he's not yelling I’ve been losing big matches and he’s always involved. Won that five way by myself; didn’t need any help. Roddy tries to get involved and there’s a big, big misunderstanding. THIS ALSO HAPPENED: Mia Yim and Bianca BelAir: both come out to solid pops Both: exchange holds on the mat, go for dropkicks at the same time and come up flashing the Wakanda Forever! handsign Bianca: I see you! I see you, okay! Mia: Yeah, I see you! Right? offers the Hand of Friendship Bianca: feints reciprocating then throws her down by the hair GURL. UH uh! I'm un de fea Mia: kicks her in the arm and lands the dropkick Who do you think you tried that on? Legroll! Basement dropkick! Strike party! Pele! Cannonball! Bianca: NOPE! Stomphole! Cravate! 747! Mia: Kickout! Bianca: starts working her back over You want my spot? Fight me! Mia: tries and fails to hit her several times Bianca: shoves her down and poses Mia: Flying guillotine! Bianca: Snaplex counter! Ragdolled cravate! Master Regal: presumably nodded backstage Bianca: 1494! Mia: does the math Knees up! Double throat chop! Shotgun dropkick! Cannonball! Tarantula! Sunset flip! Bianca: Counter! holds the ropes Jess: You can't do that! Bianca: Can't do what? Mia: Counter! Bianca: Counter! wraps her braid around the middle rope Jess: Winner! Mia: Wait, what?!No way! No! NO! That's BS! Bianca: shrugs from the ramp and mocks Mia's complaints then blows her a kiss and hits her twirl WWEPC Security Cam Footage: shows the Sons jumping the Viking Cougar Mellencamp Experience "Earlier Today" at the PC: Shayna oversees a sparring session between the Underlings Io Shirai: stomps in the place and jumps all over her the MMA Horsewomen: swarm her Candice LeRae: shows up and throws some shots too Robbie Brookside and Other Assorted Black Shirts: break it up Raul Mendoza: comes out with a new Tron Riddick Moss: comes out with a new Tron, is working on becoming a Masterpiece Announce: hypes the Riddick Regimen, his Simon Dean type thing Moss: powers Mendoza to the corner then yells at Jess I'm on my own count! flexes Raul: controls the arm and flexes himself Moss: grabs a massager and uses it on the arm Raul: Thigh kicks! Gamengiri! Springboard rana! Running SSP! Moss: Kickout! catches Mendoza and does curls with him Hallaway slam! does some pushups Full Sailors: BOOOOOO Moss: Charging corner spear! Press spinebuster! has some water, offers Raul some Raul: knocks it away Basement dropkick! Moss: goes flying into the middle buckle Raul: Headscissors into the top buckle! Step up Owenzuigiri! goes all the way up Moss: flies at him Raul: dodges to the apron Gamengiri! Springboard tornillo! Jess: Winner? Holy shit, look at that: winner! Raul: OMG Full Sailors: cheer loudly Matt Riddle: comes out cooly and offers some front row Full Sailors the Bro Bump Adam Cole, BAY BAY: in a mirror of last week's main, comes out solo Riddle: controls Cole on the mat for 3 straight exchanges Cole: bails Riddle: controls him on the mat some more then sees him drop down too soon Broton! Three Amibros rolling gutwrench suplays! Full Sailors: Bro! Bro! Bro! Bro! Cole: yanks him to the mat from the second rope Pump kick! Full Sailors: Cole: Figure fourheadlock! Stomphole! Rude Awakening! Dragon sleeper! Riddle: grabs Cole's head after a few beats and knees it Cole: Crack back elbow smash! Full Sailors: Both these guys! Both these guys! Both these guys! Cole: I'm an uncrowned champion! You're a joke! You're pathetic! Both: go Reseda mid-ring Cole: Leaping Owenzuigiri! Riddle: Release German! Hard strikes! Pele kick! Corner charging forearms! Exploder! PK! Cole: Dodge! Riddle: Standing moonsault! Cole: Dodge II: the Redodge...ining! Riddle: Broton II: the Splattening! PK! Cole: Kickout! Riddle: German to the bridge! Cole: Kickout! Full Sailors: (...well, mostly) Let's go, Bro! Let's go, Bro! Let's go, Bro! Cole: Pump kick! Oshigoroshi! Riddle: ...kickout! Cole: goes for a suplex Riddle: knees it away Ripcord knee!Go to Sleep, Bro! Cole: Get your Back Stabbed instead, dude! Riddle: ...kickout. Bromission! Cole: The Velveteenest of counters! Riddle: C R O C O P Cole: slumps Riddle: Fisherman's buster! Annnnd...fisherman's buster! And Cole: Last Shot v1! Riddle: ... Riddle: ... Riddle: ...kickout Full Sailors: Fight Forever! clap clap clapclapclap Fight Forever! clap clap clapclapclap Fight Forever! clap clap clapclapclap Riddle: throws strikes Cole: Superkick! Riddle: turtles Cole: ah ah ahhhhhhhhh! I didn't say when! One for flinching, since for that matter I didn't say here, either superkicks the knee Panama Sunset! Riddle: Caught! Powerbomb! Cole: Yet another artful dodge! Riddle: wait wha Cole: ENZUI superkick! Full Sail Last Shot! Riddle: ... Riddle: ... Riddle: ...s shoulder flumps up at 2.8 Full Sailors: NXT! NXT! NXT! NXT! Mauro: immediately notes the only kickouts to that move occurred just now and during Takeover: NY's main event Cole: LOWERS THE KNEEPAD Riddle: tries to grab him Cole: Jumping Owenzuigiri! Riddle: Pump knee! Bro To Sleep! Powerbomb! Cole: wait wha Riddle: Ripcord knee II face! Cole: sluices outside Roderick Strong: comes out and helps Cole up Riddle: Screw it. Somebody's eating this PK! Roddy: shoves Cole down and eats it Riddle: throws Cole in and notices Roddy on the floor, front somersault flips into the Cole: Superkick! Riddle: ... Riddle: ... Riddle: ...kickout and reversal into the Bromission! Cole: ... Cole: ... Cole: ... ... ... ... taps Kyle O'Reilly: comes out and shoves Roddy -- not full strength but not fully pulled, either the Undisputed Era: swarm the ring Riddle: is already out and strutting his way to the back Announce: calls it the biggest win of his NXTenure Roddy: tries to help him up Cole: won't take it Not rEDragon: are forced to try and keep the peace Roddy: can't be heard but is clearly gesturing with his body language he got the ref's attention to the ring ASAP after the superkick Full Sailors: first chant for them to fight, then to hug it out Roddy: puts his hands up in compliance but leaves on a different side of the ring than Cole Bobby: follows him to the back trying to explain ("trying to explain"?) Kyle: tries to console Cole, who's stomping off to the back Cole: loud enough that the camera work picks it up, even though he's not yelling I’ve been losing big matches and he’s always involved. Won that five way by myself; didn’t need any help. Roddy tries to get involved and there’s a big, big misunderstanding. THIS ALSO HAPPENED: Mia Yim and Bianca BelAir: both come out to solid pops Both: exchange holds on the mat, go for dropkicks at the same time and come up flashing the Wakanda Forever! handsign Bianca: I see you! I see you, okay! Mia: Yeah, I see you! Right? offers the Hand of Friendship Bianca: feints reciprocating then throws her down by the hair GURL. UH uh! I'm un de fea Mia: kicks her in the arm and lands the dropkick Who do you think you tried that on? Legroll! Basement dropkick! Strike party! Pele! Cannonball! Bianca: NOPE! Stomphole! Cravate! 747! Mia: Kickout! Bianca: starts working her back over You want my spot? Fight me! Mia: tries and fails to hit her several times Bianca: shoves her down and poses Mia: Flying guillotine! Bianca: Snaplex counter! Ragdolled cravate! Master Regal: presumably nodded backstage Bianca: 1494! Mia: does the math Knees up! Double throat chop! Shotgun dropkick! Cannonball! Tarantula! Sunset flip! Bianca: Counter! holds the ropes Jess: You can't do that! Bianca: Can't do what? Mia: Counter! Bianca: Counter! wraps her braid around the middle rope Jess: Winner! Mia: Wait, what?!No way! No! NO! That's BS! Bianca: shrugs from the ramp and mocks Mia's complaints then blows her a kiss and hits her twirl WWEPC Security Cam Footage: shows the Sons jumping the Viking Cougar Mellencamp Experience "Earlier Today" at the PC: Shayna oversees a sparring session between the Underlings Io Shirai: stomps in the place and jumps all over her the MMA Horsewomen: swarm her Candice LeRae: shows up and throws some shots too Robbie Brookside and Other Assorted Black Shirts: break it up Raul Mendoza: comes out with a new Tron Riddick Moss: comes out with a new Tron, is working on becoming a Masterpiece Announce: hypes the Riddick Regimen, his Simon Dean type thing Moss: powers Mendoza to the corner then yells at Jess I'm on my own count! flexes Raul: controls the arm and flexes himself Moss: grabs a massager and uses it on the arm Raul: Thigh kicks! Gamengiri! Springboard rana! Running SSP! Moss: Kickout! catches Mendoza and does curls with him Hallaway slam! does some pushups Full Sailors: BOOOOOO Moss: Charging corner spear! Press spinebuster! has some water, offers Raul some Raul: knocks it away Basement dropkick! Moss: goes flying into the middle buckle Raul: Headscissors into the top buckle! Step up Owenzuigiri! goes all the way up Moss: flies at him Raul: dodges to the apron Gamengiri! Springboard tornillo! Jess: Winner? Holy shit, look at that: winner! Raul: OMG Full Sailors: cheer loudly Matt Riddle: comes out cooly and offers some front row Full Sailors the Bro Bump Adam Cole, BAY BAY: in a mirror of last week's main, comes out solo Riddle: controls Cole on the mat for 3 straight exchanges Cole: bails Riddle: controls him on the mat some more then sees him drop down too soon Broton! Three Amibros rolling gutwrench suplays! Full Sailors: Bro! Bro! Bro! Bro! Cole: yanks him to the mat from the second rope Pump kick! Full Sailors: Cole: Figure fourheadlock! Stomphole! Rude Awakening! Dragon sleeper! Riddle: grabs Cole's head after a few beats and knees it Cole: Crack back elbow smash! Full Sailors: Both these guys! Both these guys! Both these guys! Cole: I'm an uncrowned champion! You're a joke! You're pathetic! Both: go Reseda mid-ring Cole: Leaping Owenzuigiri! Riddle: Release German! Hard strikes! Pele kick! Corner charging forearms! Exploder! PK! Cole: Dodge! Riddle: Standing moonsault! Cole: Dodge II: the Redodge...ining! Riddle: Broton II: the Splattening! PK! Cole: Kickout! Riddle: German to the bridge! Cole: Kickout! Full Sailors: (...well, mostly) Let's go, Bro! Let's go, Bro! Let's go, Bro! Cole: Pump kick! Oshigoroshi! Riddle: ...kickout! Cole: goes for a suplex Riddle: knees it away Ripcord knee!Go to Sleep, Bro! Cole: Get your Back Stabbed instead, dude! Riddle: ...kickout. Bromission! Cole: The Velveteenest of counters! Riddle: C R O C O P Cole: slumps Riddle: Fisherman's buster! Annnnd...fisherman's buster! And Cole: Last Shot v1! Riddle: ... Riddle: ... Riddle: ...kickout Full Sailors: Fight Forever! clap clap clapclapclap Fight Forever! clap clap clapclapclap Fight Forever! clap clap clapclapclap Riddle: throws strikes Cole: Superkick! Riddle: turtles Cole: ah ah ahhhhhhhhh! I didn't say when! One for flinching, since for that matter I didn't say here, either superkicks the knee Panama Sunset! Riddle: Caught! Powerbomb! Cole: Yet another artful dodge! Riddle: wait wha Cole: ENZUI superkick! Full Sail Last Shot! Riddle: ... Riddle: ... Riddle: ...s shoulder flumps up at 2.8 Full Sailors: NXT! NXT! NXT! NXT! Mauro: immediately notes the only kickouts to that move occurred just now and during Takeover: NY's main event Cole: LOWERS THE KNEEPAD Riddle: tries to grab him Cole: Jumping Owenzuigiri! Riddle: Pump knee! Bro To Sleep! Powerbomb! Cole: wait wha Riddle: Ripcord knee II face! Cole: sluices outside Roderick Strong: comes out and helps Cole up Riddle: Screw it. Somebody's eating this PK! Roddy: shoves Cole down and eats it Riddle: throws Cole in and notices Roddy on the floor, front somersault flips into the Cole: Superkick! Riddle: ... Riddle: ... Riddle: ...kickout and reversal into the Bromission! Cole: ... Cole: ... Cole: ... ... ... ... taps Kyle O'Reilly: comes out and shoves Roddy -- not full strength but not fully pulled, either the Undisputed Era: swarm the ring Riddle: is already out and strutting his way to the back Announce: calls it the biggest win of his NXTenure Roddy: tries to help him up Cole: won't take it Not rEDragon: are forced to try and keep the peace Roddy: can't be heard but is clearly gesturing with his body language he got the ref's attention to the ring ASAP after the superkick Full Sailors: first chant for them to fight, then to hug it out Roddy: puts his hands up in compliance but leaves on a different side of the ring than Cole Bobby: follows him to the back trying to explain ("trying to explain"?) Kyle: tries to console Cole, who's stomping off to the back Cole: loud enough that the camera work picks it up, even though he's not yelling I’ve been losing big matches and he’s always involved. Won that five way by myself; didn’t need any help. Roddy tries to get involved and there’s a big, big misunderstanding. THIS ALSO HAPPENED:
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    05-09-2019, 12:35 PM
    Did Bliss' instant cash-in help freshen up Money in the Bank? Photo Credit: WWE.com It's Twitter Request Line time, everyone! I take to Twitter to get questions about issues in wrestling, past and present, and answer them on here because 280 characters can't restrain me, fool! If you don't know already, follow me @tholzerman, and wait for the call on Wednesday to ask your questions. Hash-tag your questions #TweetBag, and look for the bag to drop Thursday afternoon (most of the time). Without further ado, here are your questions and my answers: Did WWE redeem MITB with last year’s outcomes? Brian was a dud but Bliss cashed in immediately, and it seems not having the briefcase on TV since September has been a good thing, right? #TweetBag — Star of Savage (@StarOfSavage) May 8, 2019On one hand, absence makes the heart grow fonder. The fact that both briefcases were burned before Thanksgiving has given the audience a reason to look forward to whoever wins them this time around. Fans haven't had the Sword of Damocles hanging over proceedings, so it's fresh. On the other hand, well, WWE's creative rot is settling in again like it has for most of the last decade outside of a few spurts. WrestleMania was great, but everything after has felt like throwing shit against the wall in an attempt to please the whims of a septuagenarian, which is never the recipe for success. So I'm not sure it's redeemed completely, but it does feel fresher than it has in the past. That doesn't at all answer the question of how many people are gonna watch it live, since Vince McMahon and his crack team of schedulers didn't take into consideration that maybe putting its fifth (or fourth depending on your feelings for Survivor Series) biggest pay-per-view/Network event on opposite the series finale of Game of Thrones wasn't such a good idea. That's a totally different conversation though. will you rank the main event members of the wwe roster in order of their possible skill as pokemon trainers? — Willow Catelyn Maclay (@willow_catelyn) May 8, 2019IN order to undertake this task, I will first have to identify the members of the main event. I am not counting part-timers or McMahons, even though they're really the only main event people according to Vince McMahon. I'm going with full-time wrestlers at this point. So, by my estimation, the main event of WWE is... Becky Lynch, Seth Rollins, the New Day, Roman Reigns, Drew McIntyre, Charlotte Flair, Alexa Bliss, Daniel Bryan, AJ Styles, Randy Orton, Rey Mysterio, Asuka, Braun Strowman, Baron Corbin, Bobby Lashley, Jeff HardyAll of New Day is included here because they are powerful as a cohesive unit even as the individuals achieve singles success. And now, the rankings 18. Randy Orton - Because he sees Pokémon as a child's endeavor, he neglects his charges and sees them as a burden. He is the asshole who leaves his Charmander out in the rain on a rock to wait for him even though that sweet fire lizard is loyal to him. 17. Daniel Bryan - No doubt Bryan loves Pokémon and uses them as companions, but in battle, he utilizes exclusively Grass-types and only to annoy his opponents. He's the guy who poisons or paralyzes your whole team and spams Leech Seed, but for however annoying he is to face, he rarely wins. 16. Seth Rollins - He'd be too busy crossfit training with them to teach them good moves. A bunch of swole Machoke and Gurdurr going into battle whose best moves are like Karate Chop and Tackle? Yeah, they're getting iced. 15. Braun Strowman - Strowman also trains with his Pokémon, but he never gets around to battling because he's always fighting them himself. His Pokémon are stronger no doubt, but he never makes it to the battles out of fatigue or recovery. 14. Big E - Much like Bryan, he doesn't take battle as seriously as he does companionship, or in this case, a canvas for humor. That being said, his strategy of sending out 6 Pokémon that all know Explosion is a little more effective than Bryan's. 13. Baron Corbin - The ultimate tryhard ne'er-do-well, Corbin has a bunch of level 100 Pokémon, but he never bothered to catch any that weren't in his general vicinity. While his Pidgeot/Raticate/Butterfree/Bibarel/male Combee/Fearow lineup is bulky compared to the rest of their species, well, uh. 12. Jeff Hardy - Although he's more interested in seeing which Pokémon have psychotropic qualities than battling, his nephew King Maxel has given him enough skills to get by. 11. Drew McIntyre - He's got a good eye for team-building in theory, but he's the guy who insists he can make Slaking work in a battle because it hits really hard. McIntyre doesn't really like speed, which is why he gets trucked more often than not. 10. AJ Styles - His children are savvy enough to guide him through the low-level battles, but he often loses his temper when he starts to fall behind. He's also likely to get disqualified for using slurs against his opponents. 9. Charlotte Flair - She favors elegant and gaudy Pokémon, which is fine when she sends out Sylveon and Milotic, but her achilles heel is always getting caught with Furfrou and Vivillon out at the wrong times. 8. Rey Mysterio - A trainer since the Red/Blue days, Mysterio knows the ins and outs of battle, and has even adapted from generation to generation. However, he's always falling victim to status ailments, never knowing how properly to deal with them. 7. Bobby Lashley - Surprisingly adept at battling, Lashley has all the tools to win. However, he gets cocky at the wrong time, like having his Mega Garchomp using Outrage without knowing if his opponent has a Fairy-type waiting to switch in for the kill. 6. Roman Reigns - Reigns trains true to his nickname, which is good when he gets to use Arcanine but bad when he's stuck with Stoutland. 5. Kofi Kingston - Like Styles, Kingston has the benefit of children able to get him through plus teaming with the overall best in the company from time to time. While he only wins the big competitions once in awhile, he's a perennial contender with a lot of fan-favorite Pokémon like Charizard and Pikachu. 4. Becky Lynch - Even though her trash talking does her in from time to time, Lynch's Fire-based teams compete well against the others as Fire-type attacks do well against most other typings. 3. Asuka - A gamer through and through, you know Asuka knows her way around a 'Dex. That being said, she tends to get DQed from time to time for exploding limousines as distractions. 2. Alexa Bliss - You know that Bliss knows every rule in the book, exploits them to her advantage, and knows every cheat in the book to get away with. She's a ruthless, effective, and annoying villain to excellent results. 1. Xavier Woods - You didn't think anyone else would be here, right? Woods' acumen is probably matched by no one in the locker room, and you know his OU team would make him the unchallenged WWE Pokémon League Champion. Do you like you’ve seen of the redebuting Bray Wyatt and how would you book it moving forward? — Nick Christakos (@nick36c) May 8, 2019I've only seen gifs, but it's a brilliant take on a wrestling character that I'm not sure has happened before. The disconnect is figuring out how to get from the Firefly Fun House to the actual ring. I'm sure you can get there, maybe by having him do a live version to be interrupted by a childless wrestler who hates fun. That scenario is probably best. Knowing how WWE handles non-traditional gimmicks, I expect them to add a billion different hoops and hurdles to the transition and to fuck it up like it has fucked up Wyatt's entire main-roster career to date. But this beginning is fun. @tholzerman #tweetbag in honor of a wrestler celebrating his twenty fifth anniversary of performing, there's going to be a show called "A TRIBUTE TO HOMICIDE." What other wrestling show names sound wildly inappropriate if you don't get the joke? — David (@chudleycannons) May 9, 2019Honestly, the closest answer I got for this is Great Balls of Fire, which is less an entendre for something more ominous and more a creaky old man thinking the pop culture of 60 years prior is still relevant today. A Tribute to Homicide really is the first show name that I can think of that an outsider would look at and think it was more sinister than it let on. Of course, my brain is swiss cheese, and I may be forgetting some sexually salacious show name, but if you wanna go that route, nothing tops the Submission Sorority and how a simple google search of the name would've proven it to be a baaaaaaad idea. Rank the members if the undisputed era —
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    05-08-2019, 03:13 PM
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    05-08-2019, 12:04 PM
    Get this racist goon all the way outta here Photo Credit: WWE.com Lars Sullivan is an enigmatic figure in WWE, polarizing for sure even before certain details about his past leaked out. Generally, he was considered to be good enough at his job by his employers to have gotten a moderate push in NXT that culminated in a title opportunity. His main roster push resumed after his hiatus from the company over mental health issues, which was genuinely surprising since Vince McMahon doesn't seem like the type who has sympathy for anyone or anything for any reason. It also came despite the fact that certain posts of his from a bodybuilding forum years ago leaked that show him to be racist, sexist, xenophobic, and utterly devoid of any redeeming qualities outside of his prowess for wrestling, which after seeing some of the shit that came from his fingers to the keyboard to the bandwidth, means jack shit. The posts began to leak earlier this year, but a Redditor u/MicDropsAndCumshots (righteous name, by the by) compiled everything that had been posted from u/farcevacant's comments on various posts. CONTENT WARNING, if you're sensitive to racism, rape imagery, or general bigotry, don't click the link, and I will try to describe it while using as little triggering language as possible. I won't go into full detail on everything, so if you're clickphobic or you think you might get some bad mental blowback, I will post a greatest hits of this shit here: He praised a band called Blue-Eyed Devils for their song "White Revolution." The band literally played Nazi music, and its guitarist, Wade Page, shot up a Sikh temple in Wisconsin in 2012 and killed himself before the police could apprehend him. He intimated that Kofi Kingston and R-Truth looked like a "prison gang." He's currently feuding with Truth, for the record. He claimed that not all sexual assault was "legitimate." He accused immigrants of coming here for "free stuff" and that the Democrats were bribing them and minorities for votes/support. He derided people with mental illness as weak, which given his own mental health issues, is cruelly ironic. He bagged on Dave Meltzer for his coverage of "Chinese" wrestling, and I really don't think he was referring to Oriental Wrestling Entertainment, which at the time was still five years from inception. He mocked Chris Kanyon after his death. And that all is just the tip of the iceberg. Sullivan is, without a doubt, a White supremacist ghoul who should be ostracized from society instead of being given a push in the biggest wrestling company in the world. Even more disturbing is that he is currently feuding with one of the targets of his past racism in Truth. Hell, all of his targets since coming back from his hiatus have either been POC or victims of other hatreds he holds (Kurt Angle being old, Jeff Hardy being a struggling addict). And it's not like people in the company don't know of this shit, if Big E is to be believed (and I see no reason why he shouldn't be): Many are aware. If true, he has to bear the albatross of being a bigot & working in a company that is now filled with minorities. — Florida Man (@WWEBigE) May 8, 2019Big E is far more accommodating than one might expect, and I think his diplomacy might be tied to the fact that at least for the time being, he's gotta share a locker room with Sullivan. Then again, is it such a slam dunk that Sullivan will face repercussions commensurate to his vile and violent opinions? Remember, McMahon is friends with Donald Trump, who is also a White supremacist. His wife was on Trump's cabinet. The family has donated to Trump's campaign, and probably will do so again in 2020. Kingston is only the fourth Black person to hold a top men's Championship in WWE in its 56-year history. It is not out of the realm of possibility that WWE brass knows about this shit and has decided to do nothing. The best chance for action to happen is if the right people pressure Stephanie McMahon and Paul Levesque, who trust me aren't any better than Vince but at least have the shame to respond to bad press. In this case, they wouldn't be getting rid of Sullivan because he's a bigot; they would be doing it because they don't want bad public relations. Either way though, Sullivan should not have a job. No White supremacist should have a job. People don't understand the damage that these people can do because the World War II generation is dying off or becoming extremely racist thanks to watching FOX News all the time. Liberals are demanding that White supremacists be heard so that they can "be defeated in the marketplace of ideas," because the fucking marketplace of ideas worked so well in 1930s Germany, right? Everyone should know what these assholes have to say and what the fruits of that speech is. The duty of anyone who wants to live in a decent society is to make sure anyone who holds the kinds of beliefs that Sullivan has espoused and has not even begun to atone for (he blocked the guy who pointed all this out on Twitter along with anyone else who brings it up to him) is not able to live in said society. They don't deserve platforms. They don't deserve jobs. They don't deserve to survive without realizing that their hate is not only immoral but flat out wrong. I doubt Sullivan will catch any blowback from this from management, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't.
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